2008 BMW X6 xDrive50i

I don't think that Cars in Action are cheating. Actually there are some sites that hate BMW but finally they admit that it's the ultimate driver's car.

cars in action has tested the X6 50i with 5.1s 0-100km/h... at sealevel and with 5.3s at 1400m abouve sealevel..

http://www.carsinaction.net/viewarticle.asp?art=2640&pg=3#articl e

Cars in Action have a good taste and a deep understanding of the best automobiles namely BMW. Though I don't also think that the X6 xDrive50i is able to beat the M3, M5.

I think the 0-100 acceleration number of 5.1 seconds is not real. Though its engine is superb it can't propel a 2200kg car so fast. The actual figure should be about 5.4 seconds. Can anybody tell me where this figure is taken from?

Wads & FL, thanks for changing the times! At least you guys could understand what I was saying without being fat, asshole, bastards about it!

Thanks for swearing at me Georg! We were having a decent discussion about a very valid point, but you felt the urge to swear at me to get your point accross? Is there something wrong with you?

If more laptimes must be moved, please mark them with "m" next to laptime via "[Edit]" tool and I will transfer them to "Kyalami (New)" trackpage.

the GT-R, and GTI Mk VI for sure... we need to work through the cars in action database... if I am not wrong they have now marked the new track layout laptimes with a * in their overall laptimesheet..

Georg.... FL added the new config of Kyalami.... do you know which other lap times should be moved?

Agree, It Is A Freak Time!

I've asked for the new track config to be added to the database

I'm not saying we should delete the time..... we are agreeing! I still think its a freak result as the turbo RS6, WRX STi and TT-S are slower at Kyalami but quicker at other tracks..... we are still agreeing as any number of factors could be behind the X6s result including driver, "special" BMW press car, weather, tyres etc. etc.

“Georg..... I wouldn't go as far as saying there was any cheating but I hope we can all agree that the Kyalami result is a freak..... the results observed there are not in line with results from other tracks and trusted sources.

eg. Autozeitung X6 is slower (quite a lot slower) than the M5, M6 X6M, M3, RS4, S4 S3, etc.....
at the Ring the X6 is wayyyy down the list and is slower than the likes of the Golf GTi (even the crappy Mark 4), Opel Corsa OPC, Clio Sport etc. in fact on the majority of tracks we have times for the X6 is slower than ~75% of all other tests.

I'm not saying the Kyalami test is invalid just that its unusual....... we are all smart enough to see the facts and only an X6 fan boy would use the Kyalami result to say "X6 beats R8!" (ignoring the change in track config as well ;-) ”

again Autozeitung testtrack is nearly at sealevel and Kyalami is at 1400m... M5, M6, RS4 S6 are all n/a engines in heavy sedans vs a twin turbo V8 in a not much heavyer SUV in the thin air of south africa.. you all just look at the car bagde and say it can´t be that car X can´t beat car Y...
ignoring some technical facts which makes Kyalima little bit unique here at fastestlaps...

we all agree that
1) high altitude is a HUGE disadvantage for n/a powered cars (just look at the 8.3 second different between the TT-S and TT 3.2 V6)
2) the track layout has changed and is 2.5s faster now, we need a new Kyalima laptime sheet to add the numbers from X6 GT-R etc. and delet them from the existing laptime sheet
3) we have to accept what car magazines claim ...specially if they claim that they are surprised by the result and never expected it..
4) there is still the possibilty that BMW gave them a X6 with more punch..which is no magic if they play a little bit with the turboboost.. you can hardly blame cars in action for something like that..and as sportscars has tested BMW tends to send very powerfull testcars..
5) we have many tracks with extrem strange results that stay untouched... again just look at Tsukuba and the best motoring Civic Type R bullshit claiming laptimes faster than many supercars (Example Mugen Civic Type RR beating BMW M3 CSL LOL)... funny is the JDM Civics tested in Europe drop to the level of normal hot hatches..in the UK a normal M3 is suddenly 3 seconds quicker than the same Mugen Civic Type RR
should we delet them too because they are as strange looking than this laptime

Georg..... I wouldn't go as far as saying there was any cheating but I hope we can all agree that the Kyalami result is a freak..... the results observed there are not in line with results from other tracks and trusted sources.

eg. Autozeitung X6 is slower (quite a lot slower) than the M5, M6 X6M, M3, RS4, S4 S3, etc.....
at the Ring the X6 is wayyyy down the list and is slower than the likes of the Golf GTi (even the crappy Mark 4), Opel Corsa OPC, Clio Sport etc. in fact on the majority of tracks we have times for the X6 is slower than ~75% of all other tests.

I'm not saying the Kyalami test is invalid just that its unusual....... we are all smart enough to see the facts and only an X6 fan boy would use the Kyalami result to say "X6 beats R8!" (ignoring the change in track config as well ;-)

PL just read the test.... and stfu... the track is now 2.5s faster ... the X6 is not faster than the R8 it is slower but it is faster than the M5, M6 RS4 and RS6...
Funny is no one wonder about the amazing GT-R Kyalami laptime..which was also done on the new 2.5s faster layout.. funny is none of you f**king dickheads had a problem to belive that a GT-R beats a R8 by 10seconds on a 2minute track..but if a X6 beats a R8 by 0.9 seconds all cry cheating... you guys should realy adjust your brains

Ok ill That Time Is Highly Strange.

Georg, it is obvious to me that you just cannot be convinced at all. I will say it again - THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT A X6 WILL DO A BETTER TIME THAN A R8!
We want proof!!!

cars in action online

“BMW X6 xDrive50i
The biggest surprise ever in our test programme – the absolute supercar killer”

here is the article...

http://www.carsinaction.net/viewarticle.asp?art=2640&pg=1#articl e

The test is online...YES they have changed the layout and we need a new Kyalami laptime sheet ! BUT...two sectors of the track are untouched and there the X6 5.0i still beat cars like the RS6 M5 ... cars in action claim the track to be 2.5s quicker not 3.0s ... still pretty amazing time if you add the 2.5s to the 1:03.9min ..faster than M5, RS6, WRX STI, RS4

is it known from which car test date they used the new tracklayout? in their database the tracklayout sheet did not change

OK so thanks to "Boris the Blade" it appears that the X5 time was done on the new track layout at Kyalami which is around 3 sec per lap quicker than the old config..... so the X5 would have been down in the 2:07 region which makes more sense.

We need a new version of the track adding to the database for this and any other laps on the new track layout.

then we can start deleting nearly all times... sportauto is BMW/Porsche fanatic and hates everything coming from VAG including Lamborghini Audi VW...
Then we could delet all US times because there the US cars always shine..
Then we could delte all Tsukuba times ..look at Civic Tsukuba perfromance befor you talk about strange times..there the Civic regulary drives better times than igh perfromance sportcars from all around the world...
We could delet italian laptimes because ther Ferrari and Lamborghini is always little bit better than the rest...

Because of only one strange time we should not delet it... cars in action has not published the X6 Kyalami test online (only the laptime) so we don´t know what the reason for the time was... and till that happen the best we could do is wait and stop craying like little nobs..

Unless there is a video to prove that CIA laptime I'd also vote for its removal..... beating an R8, M5, M3 and SL65 AMG (and lots more) seems highly unlikely even if all of the other cars laps were in the wet.

My point exactly! Remove the times submitted by Cars in Action, or risk losing the credibility of this site! I think CIA owes us a race, on Kyalami, between the R8 and X6 with independeant drivers.