Nissan GT-R @ Nordschleife

And the spec v weighs 3500 pounds and only posted a 1.7 second better time...

Does anyone realise the Spec-V ($170k) ran a 7:25, (the model used was rated at 550hp) and the GTR only ran a 7:26:70 with 65 less horsepower? a 485 hp GTR ran 1:70 seconds slower? Common. Nissan times are bullshit.

Best Motoring International "GT-R Evolution" video showed 7:29, data from that lap time went into the production model.

FC means "factory claim"

Does FC mean full circuit? If so, this is not correct. i have the issue of CAR magazine that featured this time by Suzuki and it was definitely the shorted lap without the pits (bridge to gantry)

Intruigingly an independent driver did a full lap of 7 mins 51 in the same article and 7 mins 49 for the 997.2 GT3.

I totally disagree with the view that Nissan cheated. If you look at the times for GTRs at ANY circuit, they are way up there with the fastest road cars. Even on a power circuit like Top Gears track, the GTR was faster than an LP640 Murcielago.

Wow as for the GTR does Toshio come with the car as I will need him to drive it for me to get the times claimed (how ridiculous). The porsche times have been achieved by other professional drivers unlike Nissans claims. Have a good look it guys esy to work out.

also adding to Venom-
Ive driven at the ring many times since the GTR came out, and seeing them in action, this time is easy to believe- the GTRs go around effortlessly, average guys are putting down great times on open days without really chalening themselves or the car all the while contending with back markers and tourist- when you see one in action at the ring, you dont argue the claimed time

Adding to Venom's list...

7. The car has a brilliant .27 drag co-efficient.

To "Anonymous" they took the sound system OUT fag ass and the door panels where replaced with Carbon bits to make it light! It's a RACING car and an SRT10 VIPER they went round at a shit time but you put an AERO pachage on adjust the suspention, and thats ok but you change the tyres on the GTR thats not allowed typical American Nazi!

Typical Americans? what makes u think ther American u Fucking Ass-Tard. the Viper and the Viper ACR are different cars, te same way a GT3 is to a GT3 RS,using different tyres is different than using different non factory supported ones. the ACr is not a Package, Its a different car asshole, and sonce when do racing cars have thing like ac,radio, n airbags? what a fucking loser u are, do us all a favor, drop dead and eat a dick, along with all the other stereotypical american bashing know it all think your shit dont smell im better than everyone europeans. think before you post rather tan just spewing diahrrea. Dont Get Dropped.

Strange how people can accept the ACR VIPER with it's whole NEW aero package creating 1000lb of down force thats ok, but the GTR can't use better tyres thats rather biased. Typical Americans can throw a RACING car on the track and you all rave about it but the GTRputs on new tyres oh thats not aloud?

Have you ever ben to the Ring before?

the rims are for reducing unsprung weight. the point is though theres only 2 straights that the really powerful cars can actually distance themselves from something like this. the compression at fuschore and its shorter overall length prevent a corvette from getting more than 5 mph above a gt-r and the straight in the middle of the track is also full of high speed corners that keep the cars close. the zr1 isnt completely flat through there and its also not long enough to let it put this more than a couple car lengths behind.

theres actually 4 straights where the more powerfull cars can really get going, and why would they fit the SpecV Rims on it? i suspect different tyres?

if you know the nurburgring well this time isnt much of a suprise. here are some simple reasons:
1. they added "5" bhp to what has been dynoed multiple times at over 500. they also fitted rays v-spec wheels.
2. there is hardly any power loss. with audi awd system it would take about 550 to get the same power to the ground.
3. there are only two straights where a powerful car will get to stretch its legs, together they will knock of no more than 5 seconds off a gt-r (even zr1, enzo etc.) there is a high speed section in the middle that might get a second but only the cars with enough downforce (enzo, mc12) will get their power down there.
4. the awd system and double clutch gearbox let it put all "500" ponies to the ground while exiting a corner, most rwd hypercars will need a split second before you can give it full power without killing yourself.
5. the double clutch gearbox means there is no gap in acceleration, so the gt-r can get in between the tighter corners much faster than the 600+ hp rwd stickshifts. they would just spin the wheels trying to accelerate that quick.
6. its a really easy car to drive, probably one of the only ones you can actually drive with confidence on the nurburgring.
if it hasnt to started to make sense at all you probably shouldnt be the one to claim nissan is cheating. there are other benchmarks of performance (other tracks) that measure performance more than time of year and driver.

The Nissan did a time of 7:38 in Sportauto (from Germany) and was thereby 2 seconds faster than the latest porsche gt3. Why could a professional driver like Suzuki not be 12 sec. faster than a journalist? Remember, this is the fastest laptime of many tries.

have you ever gandered at the possibility that the other manufakturs are falsifying the Nisans laptime? im just saying, what if they hate the car so much and are jeolous of it just because its truly faster, that they would make the car seem alot slower than it really is.

When are people going to realize that Nissan is completely falsifying their times. Not one independent tester could come close to the times that Nissan is CLAIMING. I find it hard to believe that this car is going to perform as it does with absolutely no tuning. The original time that was posted when this car was first introduced to the public was around 7:50-7:54, now they are claiming 7:26 with NO MODS or TUNING. It was first timed @ 7:54 than 7:32 than 7:29 now 7:26(supposedly). Does anybody see that Nissan is clearly tuning/modding their test cars from stock to perform these times. I just find it suspicious that a car wiht same weight, horsepower, torque and same suspension setup is reducing its time without modyfications. That is nearly 30 second per lap decrease. I don't care how good the AWD is,it is not going to make up for the fact that this car has 480hp(supposedly), weighs @ 3800lbs. There are other cars out that have more power/torque, weigh less and have exceptional awd systems that are not putting out those numbers......