2004 Nissan Nismo R34 Z-Tune

How can a car built and tuned by Nissan not be a production car, when it was entirely based on a full production car?
So what if the donor cars were 2.hand, they didn't have 20,000 miles on the clocks when they were sold, they had 0 miles and full warranty.

Some of the greatest cars ever built are hand built and for a very good reason.

Your basically saying that because the car has been used then re-built and re-branded by Nissan/Nismo that no longer makes it a production car? There's two sides of a coin to this. How can it be a production car when they no longer have the production line for the R34 but then again weren't the R34's they used made on a production line. I fail to see that how a car is made should determine if it's times are included or not that's like me saying a hand built car is not allowed to be timed because it didn't role off a prodution line.

AMG have sold cars based on previous models of Mercadies only difference being they sold them as new cars because production had not ceased on those models. I bet Nissan and Nismo would have done exactly the same if they had the idea before the car production ceased in 2002 all Nismo did is experiment, build then re-brand a new model of car off one that was already built and sold on the market because they had no way of building a new R34 GTR unless they setup a complete new factory and start producing again (cost!). Personally I fail to see the difference here apart from the fact that the cars had been used before being completed.

I wish Nismo would offer to mod my R34 to a Z-tune :)

Anyway I would own one over a R35, and it was only $170,000 so that's not too bad for a car with only 19 examples around and is quite fast. For 1999 to 2004 tech it's still a fast car.

I love my R34 GTR but it's not super fast, it's just sexy and fun. They were made for mods but I prefer mine stock.

@stephen in my eyes it is not... but I don´t care... AMG has never sold a production car based on second hand car! I know that Nismo is a inhouse tuner ...
But every Z-Tune has left orginal the Nissan factory as a normal Nissan Skyline R34 GT-R, were it was used by private owners, then it was bought back by Nismo from private owners and were modified by Nismo to Z-Tune standart and resold

actually the z-tune is a production car georg nismo is by the same as brabus because nismo is in house just like amg is for mercedes-Benz

I love how it got walked by a base gallardo at Sugo too...
LOL, some unbeatable car.

I just watched this on an old Best Motoring vid and it was actually slower than the C6Z on the back straight on Tsukuba. Not too surprising if you think about it...
Oh yeah, and the Z-tune only managed a 1'06'71, but I'm sure those times posted are accurate...
Here's the vid:http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3741h_best-motoring-battle_auto

LOL NutSwinging LOL

"Nissan has the best engineers."

Ha, get over yourself kid. Quit nutswinging and look at some racing history to see that you're completely off.

And the R34 and even R32 are still faster than the R35.


? How the Hell do you figure that, Stock for Stock, NO Nissan can beat the R35 Cept the R390.

?? WHy does this site have the smartest people on the planet. I wasn't even making an in depth comparison to the R35. Where exactly did i demean the R35? I was addressing "questions" (basic 101 BS) in this thread. Or are you just trying to distract away from the points i just made?

And the R34 and even R32 are still faster than the R35, and i think that includes the ztune in general as well. It'll definitely never come close to the ztunes drag times. And the ztune is nowhere near the fastest R34.

2nd, it's double its price because it's a collectible; an official statement of what the R34 (R32-R34 really) actually are, whether morans in the stupid fuckin west like it or not. You can turn your car into Nismo and get it the full ztune package/kit for much less without getting one of the 17 actual ztunes ever made (AFAIR they never got a hold of enough R34s that were up to their mint standards to make the 20 they wanted). But gettin one of the factory-made-fresh ztunes of the very rare and few that were made will cost you.

3rd, i have no fuckin idea why you mention Sugo (or anything, really). It's an older time (the ztune had an older time on tsukuba that was annihilated much worse than the Sugo by the GTR one as well), and I've not seen it, but i'm willing to bet that something is missing and its embellished. .5 seconds is big on tsukuba, and the ztune beat it by almost a second.

The "problem" with the R35 is that its untouchable for the most part, so far any tinkering with its drivetrain has not done a whole lot for it or even made it slower outside of drag. And of course theres no reason to focus on dragging a 3800lb AWD supercar, it's meant for circuit racing. But you're right, its a more current, interesting technological feat (or more like a slap in the face) in being a nearly _4000_lb AWD car with a simple V6 that kills cars that weight lighter with fancy pants v10s+, cost tons more including to manufacture, etc.

PS. the fuckin picture of the black car was uploaded elsewhere where it was at the least better suited. It's not a ztune its an R34 GTR V-Spec II stock body, and the only single difference in body between the V-Spec II and a standard GTR is the hood has a NACA duct in it. So put it up on the regular R34 GTR page too since it belongs there more than here.

Mr Akuma, do you think this car Slightly beating the R35 at Tsukuba is an achievement? 20bhp more, 400lbs lighter, more than double its price, and yet you praise it? if you havent noticed this Z-Tune gets its Exhaust pipes handed to it at Sugo, at the same time being 400lbs LESS and 20bhp more while being more than double its price, so i wouldnt say its faster like that.

Nissan has the best engineers, bar none. Proofs in the pudding.

yes the ztune is faster than the gtr all around..

R34 gtrs were made to be about as fast as the R35 is, then detuned for the public, and can be made faster...

yes its a production car, 100%.

yes, the car did a 10.6 by Japan Car magazine in bad conditions. Nissan claimed 10.06. An R34 doing 10s is nothing new.

yes, the black skyline *I* uploaded to this site ELSEWHERE on a regular R34 GTR page is not a ztune, its an R34 GTR STOCK body.

yes "Georg", if you read this and are still here, kill yourself.

"NissanFanboys" should meet me somewhere in the streets (LA) instead, and i can do the honors.

can you someone take that black skyline off the photos thats not a z-tune.

i herd this could do 0-60mph in 3.0 seconds and cover the 1/4 mile in 10.0 at 130+, is there any conformation for this???

I tend to prefer reasonable discussion over getting butt-hurt.

I get that it's your opinion, but you are drawing an arbitrary line. The fact that it's an extreme street car shouldn't stand against. Can you segregate it from most cars? Yes, if there is some specific set of criteria that excludes cars like the Z-Tune. On a general basis, it's an absolutely normal car.

The same logic you implemented could be used to exclude any car that is the slightest bit more track capable than another car from comparison.

And I'll say again, this is all for the sake of discussion, not an attack on you. Reply of your own will and interest.

Please don't get butt-hurt over my comments Exor. ;) LOL

They aren't directed at anyone, they're just my opinion.

The car is a stock production car.
I just don't think it should be compared to mass produced production cars... I suppose.
It's basically a time attack car built by nismo IMO.
The only thing IMO that separates this car from cars built by XS-engineering and HKS is that Nismo rebuilt it through Nissan and sold it as a new car; and hks will build you a quicker car for less money...
It just seems like a cop-out to me.
But oh well... Still a great car none the less.

What I meant to say is that the car shouldn't be compared to other stock cars because it is BASICALLY a tuned car. By a racing team no less... With only 19 technically being made... Oh yeah, and it went for over 200k stock. Is it a stock production car, Technically yes. Is it (IMO!!!) in the true spirit of stock cars (mass produced, not built with the intention of racing), No. I'm not discrediting the car, I think its amazing. I just don't think it should be compared to a stock bnr34. I feel the same way about cars like the enzo and f50 though, it's just an opinion. Would I ever own one, hell yes...

“is it in the same spirit of comparing to other stock cars?”

What does that mean? If you're saying this can't be compared to other cars, that doesn't make sense.

Hmm... All this shows is that a car can be quicker with a good amount of R&D and tuning. Yes it's new, is it in the same spirit of comparing to other stock cars? Not at all. Anything can be made quick around a roadcourse, so I'd certainly hope a racing team like nismo could make an already great car even greater.