10 Honda NSX and Nordschleife

A bloke from Germany informed me that Honda NSX lap time at Nordschelife may be fake (7-8 seconds faster than it should be). He gave me a link to this video where NSX does full Nordschleife lap. Citing his e-mail "The NSX pass at videotime 0:19 the point were later the laptime is stoped...

At video time 0:26 the NSX pass the point were the clock starts... they cut the lap by 7-8s." Well, I have to say it looks very wierd and it's hard to believe that Best Motoring is cheating that way. If you have any explanation of this please leave a comment. Otherwise I will delete NSX current lap time and replace it with one that Sport Auto magazine set (more than 8 minutes).

19y ago by FastestLaps
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FastestLaps  19y ago

ROTFL Georg, "all he said was M3 aiaiai M3333 aiaiai.. " - good one ;) Can't stap laughing :D


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Georg  19y ago

most of the times here posted are the time attack times... solo lap runs done befor the "races"... most of their JDM´s are prepared for the races. There was a compare of a 350Z vs M3, they comfirmed that they added a extra oilcooler and oilreservoir from Nismo to the 350Z to easyer controll the engine heat.
Sorry how unfair is that?
As I said they are a Car show, on TV wrestling show level.
They mix fields of completely stock with modded cars. I laught my ass of ass a highly modded S2000 with 260hp, high perfromance aftermarket brakes, coiloverkit, spacerplates, rollcage was scholled by a stoneage old BMW e30 M3 Sportevo with stock engine, stock brakes, only a coiloverkit and a rollcage added.
The S2000 was driven by the driftking... all he said was M3 aiaiai M3333 aiaiai..


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Heyhuub  19y ago

The Tsukuba thing is mainly because of different drivers and allot of those times are taken from races.


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Georg  19y ago

I have watched now some other best motoring Nürburgring time attack videos.. it is best motoring practis to cut at EVERY video the pitlane of the time...means all their laps are incomplete..
Interessting find..a Nissan commercial video about the Skyline R32 GT-R...doing a COMPLETE Nürburgring lap with 8:28min... best motoring laped the car in 8:22min ...add the 7s. of the pitlane straight to the laptime they were in real 1.0s slower as the Nissan testdriver... all their times are nothing worth..
Looking at the Tsukuba race track laptime sheet I only can laught about their taken times... best motoring is full of biased vs everything non JDM..
NSX-R faster as McLarenF1, 997 Turbo, M3 CSL is only to laugh about..


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FastestLaps  19y ago

I edited that Skyline lap time to 8:14.


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Heyhuub  19y ago

I believe it's the same deal with the Nissan Skyline.
And even if you think about it is and i mean very hard to believe that a Skyline of 1650kg and only 280ps can break the 8 minute barier.


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Z06  19y ago

I agree with Georg.


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Georg  19y ago

The different between 7:28min of Walter Röhrl and the 7:40min of Horst von Saumra are easy explained...
The 7:40min of Horst von Saumra were driven with traction controll on, on partly wet Ring.. He later drove a 7:32min as he beat the old Gemballa Porsche Ringrecord. 4s different between Walter Röhrl and Horst von Saumra is the different between a 2 time WRC champion and one of the best race drivers of all time and the time of one of the best driving car jornalists and endurance race driver. If you carefully watch the video you see that they cut of the whole pitlane ...add the 7-8s to Mr. Gansan´s time and he is with 8:05min pretty close to the 8:09min to the time of Horst von Saumra´s NSX-R time.
Looking at Tsukuba laptimes of best motoring and at many of their races they are for me like a wrestling show on TV... nothing to serious count on..


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FastestLaps  19y ago

There is no car magazine or TV show where all these cars are tested by the same pilot in all these race tracks. Obviously pilot can make a difference but all these pilots are professionals and lap times 70% - 90% depend on how fast the car is.


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Luca  19y ago

Times in Nordschelife are very controversial. First I think to compare cars performance we have to introduce times performed by the same magazine. I mean the Carrera GT perfomed 7.28 with Rohrl and 7.40 with Sport Auto. This is a 12s gap ! How we can compare car performance if the Pilot do this difference ? Second fact is how the time is recorded. In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times
There is a full explanation. Also in this link the time of Nsx-R best motoring is judged not correct.