2007 Honda Civic Type-R (FN2)

FN2 vs EP3 vs rest of the world debate looks set to run and run. Despite the fact that in the motoring world, there only appears to be one big mouthed fat old bloke thats ever unreservedly criticised the FN2, yet 16/20 on TG website is one of the highest hot hatch scores. I've just swapped my wife's Mazda6 for an FN2, meaning we're currently running (for a short period) my old EP3 and the FN2. Having only had the FN2 for under a week, I was (this morning) still suffering some buyers remorse. Old one was easier to jump in and go fast (because, having owned it for 4 years, I know exactly how to get the most out of it). Today I have taken the FN2 up over the Denbigh moors and its completely changed my mind. It's hard to believe something so much more accommodating can be so frighteningly quick. The fact that its within a few seconds of the old one, should highlight to anyone (that hasn't had the privilege of caning one around), this engine is so much better than the old one....(much smoother and mid range pick up).....and what a noise! Although, imagine this engine in the old one? That would be interesting. The total package of the FN2 is a planet away from the EP3. Remember its a Type-R 'GT', and in my opinion, all the better for it. A stunning car, from all angles.

That Tsukuba time can't be right? Surely thats in the wet?

1:33.5 time on top gear track is true. it was shown even on the TG tv program.

“Top Gear Track 1.33.5 ”

Someone please fix the time. I pretty sure it takes more than 2 seconds to lap the TG track.

great car

It's designation is FN2 not an FN1 BTW.

I'm just wondering, why is here the time on Top Gear test track 1:34.3 when the time mentioned in the Top Gear (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8i01CSrFSM) is 1:33.5?

Who cares about this economy car,its just another honda civic. And by the way KIA sells more cars worldwide than honda.

I hated this car but saw it constantly over the summer in poland but almost all of them were the regular coupes but they still looked great.

I think it is an awesome looking car. If you saw it in real life you would probably think the same. Or at least if you saw some more pictures of it from different angles.

God am I glad they don't sell these in the US. Fkn ugly. That bread truck looks better.

How about the new Scirocco 2.0TSI? I think it's faster than this...for sure... But this looks more nicer, in my opinion....

here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mtgvI3doCI&fmt=18

"9min47", quoted in the video around 2'40

so indeed there was two laps: warmup lap (with the above time) and hotlap ("full lap" video), and Button totally discovers the track.

BTW I have some lap times, though not really worthy.

Quoting Alistair Weaver, the FN2 did 9min45 around the Nordschleife in the kinda wet, performed by Jenson Button on his first trial laps on the 'Ring. Can't find the video on youtube but it's on the hondaracingf1 site (though hard to find).

Then there's the full lap, but it's raining like hell on the Green Hell... so he admits himself not pushing it. plus there's a passenger, and he's not really pushing himself neither, they're chatting all the time. What's more there's another car at some point and the lap is not really a full one so I assume that's not a closed-track session.

introduction video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bo0KIbpNegM&fmt=18
"full" lap video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlZdBQRcE_Y&fmt=18

the one where Alistair quotes the time sits in between.

they're bad. I do under 7s and I'm not that good of a driver.

0-100 km/h 7.8 sec?? how bad they have driven it? and 0-200 km/h should be lower than 29,9..

Performance from Swedish magazine Automobil: 0-100 km/h 7,8 sec. 0-200 km/h 29,9 sec.

dun forget that there was a JDM EP3 CTR, greatly differed from the EDM EP3 - 215ps K20, LSD, better springs/dampers, thicker ARB, shorter ratios blah blah blah the list goes on... basically the japs always keep the good stuff fot themselves... plus when the mk2 (post 2004) revisions came about, the EP3 was really sorted then! These stats on Fastestlaps.com are all EDMs i guess...

absolutely, those are the figure stated on the brochure for each one and the figure stated on the official 'carte grise' (mandatory piece of paper one must legally own to own a car) also, for the sake of clarity, Type R Race is NOT Type R-R, the one prepared by JAS Motorsport (confusion easily made due to lack of reviews, it seems every reviewer got a GT Navi...)

lloeki are you sure? are the weights different in different versions?

as for the 0-100kph figure, this is because it's 0-60mph time, and there's a gear shift right over 60, at 98kph. so it's really 6.6s.

Please correct: chassis code is NOT FN1, it is FN2. As for weight, there are three trim levels: Race, GT (HID lights, full audio, Dual AC, sound proofing) and GT Navi (GPS, more sound proofing). their weights are 1240, 1267, and 1355kg.

Even the JDM FD2 is not a true type R. too many comfort features for a start. 17s and 4 door is a big NO NO in the Type R dictionary.

oh! so you know german well :) thanks...