32 Mercedes SLS vs 997 Turbo S vs Audi R8 V10 at Smolensk Ring

Cover for Mercedes SLS vs 997 Turbo S vs Audi R8 V10 at Smolensk Ring

The oldest and most popular Russian automotive magazine "Za Rulem" started testing on Smolensk Ring a year ago. At that
time track wasn't actively used. Now it's ready for almost any kind of racing - as proven by Truck Battle Russia-
2010, the event of European Truck Racing Championship.

Right after this event we organized a challenge between new Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG, Audi R8 5.2 FSI quattro and Porsche 911 Turbo S.
“Ordinary” 911 Turbo also participated, but due to bad weather couldn't show decent result.

Each of these 3 supercars has its spice. Legendary 911 with its unique rear-engine design is equipped with modern AWD
transmission. New-born MB SLS AMG, the 300 SL gullwing successor, is a front-engine RR supercar. Audi R8 is the first VAG
supercar of modern era - aluminium body, V10 similar to Gallardo, mid-engine design and quattro drivetrain. Despite unequal power output (from 525 hp performed by Audi R8, to 571 hp of MB SLS AMG), official performance figures are very
close. So, which of the three was fastest on a race track?

MB SLS AMG with its powerful engine and rear wheel drive is quite difficult to drive hard – our pilot had to shift up in
curves to avoid unwanted drift, caused by tremendous torque on the rear axle. It needs a very qualified pilot to show its
true potential.

Porsche 911 Turbo S, on the other hand, is friendly both to rookies and professional pilots alike. The only complaint is
Porsche's specific paddles confusing those used to shift with switches like in Audi and Mercedes Benz. It showed the highest peak speed on the straight – 212,78 km/h, but Audi's lap time was exactly the same (1:45.5) even when lacking 6 km/h on the straightaway.

Obviously, R8 must be better in chicanes... And yes, it was! Using Driftbox we found out that in sector with 8 curves R8
was nearly a full second faster than the 911!

But R8 has appreciable disadvantage - S-tronic. This semi-automatic gearbox, as we saw on Driftbox diagram, needs
approximately 0,3 second to change a gear. You feel it while driving - during the gearchange acceleration stops, and car
is destabilized with powerful "kick" when clutch is re-engaged. Nor MB SLS neither 911 Turbo S with dual-clutch transmission
have this negative side effect.

Fastestlaps's note: All laptimes are available in "Smolensk Ring" track page. Full story (in Russian) will be published in "Za Rulem" October issue.

 

15y ago by FastestLaps
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Georg  14y ago

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The SLS is not a front engined car. The engine is between the axles, making it a mid-engined car

we have here only front mid or rear engine layout to choose from...
That means at this side
Front = all cars with the engine infront of the passengers.. no matter if the engine is infront of the front axle, ontop of the frontaxle or behind the front axle..
mid = behind the passengers infront of the rear axle
rear = behind the rear axle

perhaps fastestlaps one day update the database with front/midengine layout...engine behind the front axle infront of passengers


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russen halt  14y ago

The SLS is not a front engined car. The engine is between the axles, making it a mid-engined car


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GEAR  15y ago

WTF everything in this site is wrong. even the information in top gear is rabish.


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9ff  15y ago

Porsche 997 Turbo S and Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI Mercedes SLS AMG Porsche 997 Turbo facelift WET LAP

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track119.html


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GTR22  15y ago

Audi R8 V10 5.2 FSI Porsche 997 Turbo S Mercedes SLS AMG Porsche 997 Turbo facelift

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track119.html


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men  15y ago

The R8 looks beautifull!


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ed hardy  15y ago

where? it does\'nt!,all i see is the Turbo S Smokes the R8 V10

Smolensk Ring

http://www.e-luxurysin.com/


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Anonymous.  15y ago

They have ben putting the engines in the rear for 40+ years, i think they will be just fine, and why? there arent many rear engined, so its quite unique.


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Eric  15y ago

Porsche should find a way to position the motor more in the middle for the 911\'s. Or better yet they could stop holding the Cayman back for the sake of it not making the 911 bad not that it doesn\'t do that already. A Porsche Cayman S with about a one hundred to one fifty boost in horse power and supporting modifications would shit all over the 911’s as we know them. There’s no way in hell the 911’s current 38/62 – 39/61 front to rear weight distribution is optimum for performance.


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NIN  15y ago

There are no \"moral victories\" when it comes to laptimes. I think it was a tie.

If extra \"points\" are given to the heavier car with less hp, where would the GT-R fit into the mix? (now THAT should start a new debate)


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gt  15y ago

@Zzzzzzzzz go Zzzzzzzzz kid its time for bed..


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Zzzzzzzzz  15y ago

GT, you are now becoming seriously annoying.


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gt  15y ago

Smart ass Mr. GT has throw in all other tracks because he lost the argument battle that the Turbo S smoked the R8 V10 on this russian track with flying colors!

all I said was that it is amazing that the R8 beat the Turbo S on this track...which is amazing if you know that the R8 V10 has less hp much less torque a outdated transmission and it still reached exactly the same laptime...

@Georg the biggest Smart ass.. and ill show you why again.. LOL

if your willing to make excuses then we all can make them,well here is a couple of them..

the 911 turbo s has much less rev range and less racing torque, the 911 turbo s has much better fuel economy, the 911 turbo s has alot less Co2 emissions, the 911 turbo s has 4 cylinders less, .. yet (reversing your wrong logic) the 911 turbo s smokes the R8 V10 at Smolensk Ring. with that in mind knockout punch & you lose.


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Tre  15y ago

I know that the Turbo S is the faster car and in no statment in this discssion I said something different...all I said was that it is amazing that the R8 beat the Turbo S on this track

it still reached exactly the same laptime

How can r8 beat turbo if it\'s as fast as porsche at this track ?
And please don\'t give me this \"moral winner\" bs because these cars are very similar in every way so they are bound to be compared. In comparison of lap times on this track they are exactly the same. No winners no losers (if we don\'t consider the sls)


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Anonymous.  15y ago

My bad, didnt see that part, mr gt has also thrown me off, my bad.


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Georg  15y ago

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..Can You explain George? how the R8 V10 is faster than the Turbo PDK? The Audi looses 7/10 Tracks, along wit straightline acceleration, Am i missing something?...

do you realize that I talk about this track only!!!
Smart ass Mr. GT has throw in all other tracks because he lost the argument battle that the Turbo S smoked the R8 V10 on this russian track with flying colors!

I know that the Turbo S is the faster car and in no statment in this discssion I said something different...all I said was that it is amazing that the R8 beat the Turbo S on this track...which is amazing if you know that the R8 V10 has less hp much less torque a outdated transmission and it still reached exactly the same laptime...
If you read the article abouve the R8 was much faster through turns and chicanes and lost all time during shiffting (0.3s each time shifting)


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Georg  15y ago

@Nin

you guys are so funny you write bs someone corrects you and you correct your wrong statment... next time I use the quote function...

@GT

you lost that battle and you still try to fight?
LOL


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Anonymous.  15y ago

..Can You explain George? how the R8 V10 is faster than the Turbo PDK? The Audi looses 7/10 Tracks, along wit straightline acceleration, Am i missing something?...


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gt  15y ago

i don't buy that bold (1:45.5X)

the N17 of the magazine should be up soon and we will see whats fastest at Smolensk Ring ill make sure of it!

@Riko

i make people shut up including you! so STFU


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Riko  15y ago

Shut up GT...